Comments for twelchconsulting.com Blog http://twelchconsulting.com/blog Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:13:10 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Mastery Learning – I don’t buy it anymore by Randolph Hollingsworth http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2011/01/18/mastery-learning-i-dont-buy-it-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-11507 Randolph Hollingsworth Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:13:10 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=78#comment-11507 Not sure I follow the logic here - mastery comes in micro-levels and with every particular facet of originality a learner brings to it. So don't we need to think of the concept of mastery more as a sort of porous, flexible sphere not some kind of hard line (the "dead" line of old) or a stair-step? Wouldn't you rather play golf with someone who has achieved some mastery of the sport (even if it is simply knowing enough about which clubs and the particular stance or grip to use for which swing) than someone who hasn't? Of course we're always learning, but there are goals in learning golf that need to be accomplished before you go out and play with a potential business client, right? If not, well then, we better stop calling certain types of our higher education degrees "Masters" and just advertise how much the student should pay to get a particular degree. Forget the idea of a Faculty Senate voting on the graduation requirements. Hm, no, that won't work... Of course, educational mastery is first crafted by the "master" educator - and an expert in the classroom knows how to encourage and motivate students towards mastery of components of those educational achievements. An education technologist may focus on leveraging enough numbers of students who achieve certain scores within a local, national or international testing system - however, an educator seeks to encourage mastery learning. Not sure I follow the logic here – mastery comes in micro-levels and with every particular facet of originality a learner brings to it. So don’t we need to think of the concept of mastery more as a sort of porous, flexible sphere not some kind of hard line (the “dead” line of old) or a stair-step? Wouldn’t you rather play golf with someone who has achieved some mastery of the sport (even if it is simply knowing enough about which clubs and the particular stance or grip to use for which swing) than someone who hasn’t? Of course we’re always learning, but there are goals in learning golf that need to be accomplished before you go out and play with a potential business client, right? If not, well then, we better stop calling certain types of our higher education degrees “Masters” and just advertise how much the student should pay to get a particular degree. Forget the idea of a Faculty Senate voting on the graduation requirements. Hm, no, that won’t work… Of course, educational mastery is first crafted by the “master” educator – and an expert in the classroom knows how to encourage and motivate students towards mastery of components of those educational achievements. An education technologist may focus on leveraging enough numbers of students who achieve certain scores within a local, national or international testing system – however, an educator seeks to encourage mastery learning.

]]> Comment on American Education — Race to the Top in a K-Car by Jan Clinard http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2010/01/12/american-education-race-to-the-top-in-a-k-car/comment-page-1/#comment-10389 Jan Clinard Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:08:14 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=66#comment-10389 Tom, Wish I had more time to respond; but, the problem is that people need binoculars to understand thinking that is ahead of current practice and even ahead of conceptions of the near future. Tom,

Wish I had more time to respond; but, the problem is that people need binoculars to understand thinking that is ahead of current practice and even ahead of conceptions of the near future.

]]> Comment on Mastery Learning – I don’t buy it anymore by John Krueger http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2011/01/18/mastery-learning-i-dont-buy-it-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-10366 John Krueger Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:28:01 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=78#comment-10366 By the way - I very much agree with you. Good post. Mastery can be useful for relevant points along the way perhaps. But not for the goal of the entire journey. Not by a long shot! By the way – I very much agree with you. Good post. Mastery can be useful for relevant points along the way perhaps. But not for the goal of the entire journey. Not by a long shot!

]]> Comment on Mastery Learning – I don’t buy it anymore by John Krueger http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2011/01/18/mastery-learning-i-dont-buy-it-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-10192 John Krueger Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:23:24 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=78#comment-10192 My father did master making the perfect Bloody Mary. But other than that I can't really think where mastery is a valuable concept. My father did master making the perfect Bloody Mary. But other than that I can’t really think where mastery is a valuable concept.

]]> Comment on Why Schools Can’t Be “Fixed” or What the Dewey Decimal System tells us about the Future of School by Margaret http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2009/06/20/why-schools-can%e2%80%99t-be-%e2%80%9cfixed%e2%80%9d-or-what-the-dewey-decimal-system-tells-us-about-the-future-of-school/comment-page-1/#comment-7638 Margaret Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:47:16 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=29#comment-7638 We must realize that our students come to us with needs that are broad and complex and that curriculum and instruction alone will not be the "fix". We must teach and heal the whole child. Until we nurture and address the increasingly complex needs of students/children, I believe we will continue to struggle with the education of these children. It appears that everytime a new idea in education becomes popular, we implement it before giving the it the time to see if the idea/new instructional technique a chance to develop. I began teaching undergraduate and graduate students at our local university and the students were unable to construct a sentence and lacked basic research skills. We as educators must prepare them for life outside of the public school system. Miss seeing you Tom and the debates! We must realize that our students come to us with needs that are broad and complex and that curriculum and instruction alone will not be the “fix”. We must teach and heal the whole child. Until we nurture and address the increasingly complex needs of students/children, I believe we will continue to struggle with the education of these children. It appears that everytime a new idea in education becomes popular, we implement it before giving the it the time to see if the idea/new instructional technique a chance to develop. I began teaching undergraduate and graduate students at our local university and the students were unable to construct a sentence and lacked basic research skills. We as educators must prepare them for life outside of the public school system. Miss seeing you Tom and the debates!

]]> Comment on Technology as a Connection, not a Solution by Perry Martin http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2010/01/25/technology-as-a-connection-not-a-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-6983 Perry Martin Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:41:18 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=74#comment-6983 I am a graduate student in adult education and training. A couple of things I would like to say. #1: University of Phoenix requires students to work in teams, some major colleges condem team work as they see it as cheating. Your "whiteboard of ideas" being monitored by educators but not interfering with them makes students a)Step up and say something about what they know or don't know, and b) allows others to step up when someone is wrong; instead of letting the wrongness continue. #2: Outside of the box is where I live. I have a 140 IQ and when tested on standard personality test I score way out of the norm 95%. I have been told that I actually see the world different and much faster then others. This is a problem if you live in the box and want out. I hate the box!!!! Thanks for your blog. I am a graduate student in adult education and training. A couple of things I would like to say. #1: University of Phoenix requires students to work in teams, some major colleges condem team work as they see it as cheating. Your “whiteboard of ideas” being monitored by educators but not interfering with them makes students a)Step up and say something about what they know or don’t know, and b) allows others to step up when someone is wrong; instead of letting the wrongness continue. #2: Outside of the box is where I live. I have a 140 IQ and when tested on standard personality test I score way out of the norm 95%. I have been told that I actually see the world different and much faster then others. This is a problem if you live in the box and want out. I hate the box!!!! Thanks for your blog.

]]> Comment on American Education — Race to the Top in a K-Car by betting football http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2010/01/12/american-education-race-to-the-top-in-a-k-car/comment-page-1/#comment-6943 betting football Fri, 04 Jun 2010 04:18:13 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=66#comment-6943 I like the first point you made there, but I am not sure I could reasonably apply that in a contructive way. I like the first point you made there, but I am not sure I could reasonably apply that in a contructive way.

]]> Comment on Why Schools Can’t Be “Fixed” or What the Dewey Decimal System tells us about the Future of School by Benedict Swerdloff http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2009/06/20/why-schools-can%e2%80%99t-be-%e2%80%9cfixed%e2%80%9d-or-what-the-dewey-decimal-system-tells-us-about-the-future-of-school/comment-page-1/#comment-6342 Benedict Swerdloff Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:31:23 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=29#comment-6342 great post, I am really enjoying your site great post, I am really enjoying your site

]]> Comment on Why Schools Can’t Be “Fixed” or What the Dewey Decimal System tells us about the Future of School by Troy Penquite http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2009/06/20/why-schools-can%e2%80%99t-be-%e2%80%9cfixed%e2%80%9d-or-what-the-dewey-decimal-system-tells-us-about-the-future-of-school/comment-page-1/#comment-6319 Troy Penquite Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:54:51 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=29#comment-6319 interesting read, if you get a chance check out my site. interesting read, if you get a chance check out my site.

]]> Comment on Why Schools Can’t Be “Fixed” or What the Dewey Decimal System tells us about the Future of School by Eugene Balford http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/2009/06/20/why-schools-can%e2%80%99t-be-%e2%80%9cfixed%e2%80%9d-or-what-the-dewey-decimal-system-tells-us-about-the-future-of-school/comment-page-1/#comment-6294 Eugene Balford Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:53:28 +0000 http://twelchconsulting.com/blog/?p=29#comment-6294 I couldn't agree more, thanks for writing. I couldn’t agree more, thanks for writing.

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